But the Gabe Newell alternative only works if it’s taken up by a minority of a game’s audience. Devs don’t get 100% of each $60 copy (in fact, having worked in an electronics store and received shipments, I can say the games we pay $60 for only cost the stores we buy them from $25 – $30 a unit, the rest is markup).
Consider how much is put into packaging/disc stamping, etc… The ones making the real profit are the publishers.
He was emphasizing … He was emphasizing not to not pay for games as we already do, but instead of considering other alternative payment routes as well.
To paraphrase:
If you play an indie game that you enjoyed, pay the dev $5 or so even if it’s free.
you hit the point … you hit the point where at the end it matters by the opinion of the individual playing.
For you you said that the gameplay is unimaginative .for me i thought that lurking behind some body to silently assassinate him is pretty awesome and loved the game and loved the way the game made me think how to kill every target
you thought it was repetitive i thought the same.
But i liked it when it was repetitive.
he is an assassin….WTF did you expect?
you want him to pull out a Final fantasy Sword
Sorry, but it … Sorry, but it really was a game. Looking purely at gameplay it was the most unimaginative game I’d ever played. It was like a gold plated piece of – it looked pretty, but it was still shit.
I like the idea of … I like the idea of paying only for a good game, but how can the developer make a game by hoping the end product will be liked?
The developers are people too and they work for money. They need that to survive. You need the money regularily and not after the product is finished.
I do not … I do not necessarily agree with what you said, but 5 Stars and a comment for being very clear about what you have to say and being entertaining. Great video.
Piracy also impacts … Piracy also impacts a game and its developer. Call of Cthulhu, the last effort of a game company to produce a game. It was either sink or swim.
Someone always says “piracy never hurts anyone,” but in this case it didn’t just hurt the company. Meant to be a trilogy, but it’ll forever be one game.
I bought 3 copies (Xbox/PC/PS2) cause I enjoyed the game so much. Yet most who enjoyed it bought 0 copies. That’s bullshit.
This rant is so true, yet will not hit home cause people are selfish..
I walk in late on … I walk in late on this video. Funny, just recently around the group of friends I have been getting into arguments. It started off as a piracy debate and moved onto the difference between a PC gamer and a console gamer.
It boiled down to this; the general consensus I held – the average mass of video game consumers are the most idiotic (pliable) mass of consumers.
We have companies that mass market and thousands fall prey to over-hype and over-sensationalist ‘journalism’ again and again.
they are best cuz … they are best cuz they get recognized …
and people want sequel because the First game ended with a cliff hanger…
and A lot of tv shows like lost End with a cliff hanger…
And Lost is one of the most popular and successful..
I want to see what happens and i loved the game play in the first..
And assassins creed is meant to be a trilogy..
the third is about a ninja…HUH
i will be playing that…Not these gay flash games
huh…….Suck it
@vaderwalks. i know … @vaderwalks. i know it was an example and thats fine. just wanted to make my point. and i do understand about games i hate getting sequels because there have been plenty.
Best games ever? One of your favourite games ever, fine. But best? Really? Justify this.
High ratings doesn’t equal good, necessarily. It means popular, which is sometimes justified, sometimes not. It can also mean bribery, which unfortunately is still a problem in the industry.
As for fans that were dying to get a sequel because of the plot…how could an ending that make anybody want more?
It IS an opinion. And define “successful”. Usually, one would define it as accomplishing the intended goal; so, if the intended goal for AC was to make lots of money, then yes, I suppose it was successful. If the goal was to make a GOOD game…well, yes, that’s debateable, but it’s also not really the point.
And he didn’t say that nobody wants a sequel (if he did, I’m sure it was hyperbole), he said it’s game that nobody knows will be good or not.
I don’t think he’s talking about people like you, pal. Most people who play these games live in the states and have credit cards, but still don’t donate. They’re the problem.
Fair enough, but Assassin’s Creed was just an example, not the point of his rant. It’s about the flawed system we use to pay for video games, and how it does very little to encourage quality. Replace Assassin’s Creed with some game that you hated but still got a sequel, and it’ll make sense.
i do indeed resent … i do indeed resent those comments about assassins creed, and propose that the reason for the sequel is sure, people hate it, like Ascalon here, but the people, like me, who liked it LOVED it at some times i just cant stop playing it, and sure its repetitive, and boring after you beat it, and blah fuckity blah but that doesnt diminish the love that some people have for it.
although i do like … although i do like assassins creed i do understand his points it is absurd that most of these indie games get because there generous and care for the average gamer and that ive gambled that $60 hoping for a good game and have found more good games in the indie world and its a shame that theyre talent goes to waste
these are my point of views
and i am aristides
i was stoked for … i was stoked for assassins creed
i reserved it
got the special edition and guide, like $100
played it for 4 hours and havnt touched it since
I told myself i wasnt going to do that again after FFXII but I DID
you’re totally right about AC
SHIT game
good concept =\= good game
we need new concepts and types of games, and maybe AC2 will be okay, but unlike my friends who ALWAYS buy the latest and greatest games, I havent got one in a while. Modern gaming is uninspired and sucks ass
You make a very … You make a very good point. I’d like to add something more to that, but I really just wholeheartedly agree and felt the need to say so.
Thats Not an … Thats Not an opinion that’s just him denying the Fact that Assasins creed was a very successful game and that it has many fans and that its sequel is anticipated by lots of Gamers…
He could say that he didn’t like the game..that’s ok
But he shouldnt have said that its and that
ubisoft is making a game that no body wants…
Angy.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Some sound ideas… …
Some sound ideas…
But the Gabe Newell alternative only works if it’s taken up by a minority of a game’s audience. Devs don’t get 100% of each $60 copy (in fact, having worked in an electronics store and received shipments, I can say the games we pay $60 for only cost the stores we buy them from $25 – $30 a unit, the rest is markup).
Consider how much is put into packaging/disc stamping, etc… The ones making the real profit are the publishers.
Devs MIGHT make $5-10/copy if they’re lucky.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
He was emphasizing …
He was emphasizing not to not pay for games as we already do, but instead of considering other alternative payment routes as well.
To paraphrase:
If you play an indie game that you enjoyed, pay the dev $5 or so even if it’s free.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
you hit the point …
you hit the point where at the end it matters by the opinion of the individual playing.
For you you said that the gameplay is unimaginative .for me i thought that lurking behind some body to silently assassinate him is pretty awesome and loved the game and loved the way the game made me think how to kill every target
you thought it was repetitive i thought the same.
But i liked it when it was repetitive.
he is an assassin….WTF did you expect?
you want him to pull out a Final fantasy Sword
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Sorry, but it …
Sorry, but it really was a game. Looking purely at gameplay it was the most unimaginative game I’d ever played. It was like a gold plated piece of – it looked pretty, but it was still shit.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Fuckin A
A
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Shitty Parkour game …
Parkour game? Mirrors edge? XD
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I like the idea of …
I like the idea of paying only for a good game, but how can the developer make a game by hoping the end product will be liked?
The developers are people too and they work for money. They need that to survive. You need the money regularily and not after the product is finished.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Agreed
Agreed
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Agree completely. I …
Agree completely. I think we’re lucky to have Braid.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I do not …
I do not necessarily agree with what you said, but 5 Stars and a comment for being very clear about what you have to say and being entertaining. Great video.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Piracy also impacts …
Piracy also impacts a game and its developer. Call of Cthulhu, the last effort of a game company to produce a game. It was either sink or swim.
Someone always says “piracy never hurts anyone,” but in this case it didn’t just hurt the company. Meant to be a trilogy, but it’ll forever be one game.
I bought 3 copies (Xbox/PC/PS2) cause I enjoyed the game so much. Yet most who enjoyed it bought 0 copies. That’s bullshit.
This rant is so true, yet will not hit home cause people are selfish..
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I walk in late on …
I walk in late on this video. Funny, just recently around the group of friends I have been getting into arguments. It started off as a piracy debate and moved onto the difference between a PC gamer and a console gamer.
It boiled down to this; the general consensus I held – the average mass of video game consumers are the most idiotic (pliable) mass of consumers.
We have companies that mass market and thousands fall prey to over-hype and over-sensationalist ‘journalism’ again and again.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
they are best cuz …
they are best cuz they get recognized …
and people want sequel because the First game ended with a cliff hanger…
and A lot of tv shows like lost End with a cliff hanger…
And Lost is one of the most popular and successful..
I want to see what happens and i loved the game play in the first..
And assassins creed is meant to be a trilogy..
the third is about a ninja…HUH
i will be playing that…Not these gay flash games
huh…….Suck it
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
@vaderwalks. i know …
@vaderwalks. i know it was an example and thats fine. just wanted to make my point. and i do understand about games i hate getting sequels because there have been plenty.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
@omaraty:
Best …
@omaraty:
Best games ever? One of your favourite games ever, fine. But best? Really? Justify this.
High ratings doesn’t equal good, necessarily. It means popular, which is sometimes justified, sometimes not. It can also mean bribery, which unfortunately is still a problem in the industry.
As for fans that were dying to get a sequel because of the plot…how could an ending that make anybody want more?
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
@omaraty009:
It …
@omaraty009:
It IS an opinion. And define “successful”. Usually, one would define it as accomplishing the intended goal; so, if the intended goal for AC was to make lots of money, then yes, I suppose it was successful. If the goal was to make a GOOD game…well, yes, that’s debateable, but it’s also not really the point.
And he didn’t say that nobody wants a sequel (if he did, I’m sure it was hyperbole), he said it’s game that nobody knows will be good or not.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
@ZzRydoxzZ:
I …
@ZzRydoxzZ:
I don’t think he’s talking about people like you, pal. Most people who play these games live in the states and have credit cards, but still don’t donate. They’re the problem.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
@ …
@SkeletonInYourCloset:
Fair enough, but Assassin’s Creed was just an example, not the point of his rant. It’s about the flawed system we use to pay for video games, and how it does very little to encourage quality. Replace Assassin’s Creed with some game that you hated but still got a sequel, and it’ll make sense.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
i do indeed resent …
i do indeed resent those comments about assassins creed, and propose that the reason for the sequel is sure, people hate it, like Ascalon here, but the people, like me, who liked it LOVED it at some times i just cant stop playing it, and sure its repetitive, and boring after you beat it, and blah fuckity blah but that doesnt diminish the love that some people have for it.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
although i do like …
although i do like assassins creed i do understand his points it is absurd that most of these indie games get because there generous and care for the average gamer and that ive gambled that $60 hoping for a good game and have found more good games in the indie world and its a shame that theyre talent goes to waste
these are my point of views
and i am aristides
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
i was stoked for …
i was stoked for assassins creed
i reserved it
got the special edition and guide, like $100
played it for 4 hours and havnt touched it since
I told myself i wasnt going to do that again after FFXII but I DID
you’re totally right about AC
SHIT game
good concept =\= good game
we need new concepts and types of games, and maybe AC2 will be okay, but unlike my friends who ALWAYS buy the latest and greatest games, I havent got one in a while. Modern gaming is uninspired and sucks ass
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
You make a very …
You make a very good point. I’d like to add something more to that, but I really just wholeheartedly agree and felt the need to say so.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Nah actually, …
Nah actually, Assassin’s Creed was shitty, it’s a known fact.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Thats Not an …
Thats Not an opinion that’s just him denying the Fact that Assasins creed was a very successful game and that it has many fans and that its sequel is anticipated by lots of Gamers…
He could say that he didn’t like the game..that’s ok
But he shouldnt have said that its and that
ubisoft is making a game that no body wants…
Cuz that s not True…
October 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Watch out, Anthony, …
Watch out, Anthony, he’s gonna criticize you for having a different opinion on videogames! :O